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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Ideas, Thoughts and Suggestions for forthcoming APF Leagues Reply with quote

Ideas, Thoughts and Suggestions for forthcoming APF Leagues :

This thread is for discussing forthcoming leagues with all suggestions, ideas and wishes welcome.

We may not be able to implement all of them, but we will listen, discuss and give all good ideas their deserved attention !
 


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- Should one of our moderators not reach the top 20 at the end of the season. He/she will be given a wild card entry into the bonanza. This will not affect the top 20, so no one will lose their place.


Suggestion..

if we still have the bounty on league winners in the next bonanza, i think we should grant a place for the winners in buy-in and bugsy league as well if they dont qualify in top 20.


it's not a bad idea, but then we could also say "if you win five medals in a season, you should get in" or other such ideas and we would end up with a Top 30 which would rather defeat the point of a Top 20.

the rule is more of a thankyou to the mods who work tirelessly for nothing and although i fully expect that they will qualilfy, we felt it was wrong they should miss out and so offered a little bonus.

as for the bounties, it will really depend on the budget so you should never assume they will be happening. with all the donations we had over the last 2 months, it really justified us putting a little more into the mix for the Top 20 Bonanza !  

.........i hope that all sounds reasonable.  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- Should one of our moderators not reach the top 20 at the end of the season. He/she will be given a wild card entry into the bonanza. This will not affect the top 20, so no one will lose their place.


Suggestion..

if we still have the bounty on league winners in the next bonanza, i think we should grant a place for the winners in buy-in and bugsy league as well if they dont qualify in top 20.


it's not a bad idea, but then we could also say "if you win five medals in a season, you should get in" or other such ideas and we would end up with a Top 30 which would rather defeat the point of a Top 20.

the rule is more of a thankyou to the mods who work tirelessly for nothing and although i fully expect that they will qualilfy, we felt it was wrong they should miss out and so offered a little bonus.

as for the bounties, it will really depend on the budget so you should never assume they will be happening. with all the donations we had over the last 2 months, it really justified us putting a little more into the mix for the Top 20 Bonanza !

.........i hope that all sounds reasonable.


dont get me wrong with this..

i do agree as the others that the mod and admin team do a great job for us, and deserves a freebee if needed!!

but i also thinks that if someone does good in the buy in leagues (normal and bugsys) it should award a place in the bonanza.

bonanza is like a final of each season, but it is really just the freeroll league that makes you qualified to play it. if some player would prefer to rather play the buy ins than the freerolls, that player has no chance playing the season final.

you say 5 medals (an example, i know..) but i think if one players gets 5 medals that will make that player qualify for it non the less.. last season less than the points for a win in the freeroll league made you qualify for top 20 ( i made it with 5 points ) and 5 wins in either league will kind of make you win it

so my main argument for my first suggestion is still, if you manage to get a trophy it should grant you a place in the season finals that the bonanza acctually is, and not just promote the freeroll players.

if you dont agree it is ok.. i just wanted to clarify my thoughts a bit
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i understand muratore. i will think over it and make a decision in a few days.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i must say i like the result!!

the bonanza will now be a more balanced season final, even more than my first suggestion

and also good imo to give those paying to pay a better chance to get a place in the bonanza and also promote more players to play the other leagues than the freeroll league!

well done MLP Team!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the way thats its been done in the past it is all points right? and the persons with the most points in the top 20/30 go through? right? and there should or will be points on the buy-in league? right? that is add to all the league totals? right? Bugsy, freeroll leauge, and buy-in league? Right?
I think its the fair way, right? correct me if im wrong? Right! 4As
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the way thats its been done in the past it is all points right? and the persons with the most points in the top 20/30 go through? right? and there should or will be points on the buy-in league? right? that is add to all the league totals? right? Bugsy, freeroll leauge, and buy-in league? Right?
I think its the fair way, right? correct me if im wrong? Right! 4As


do i take it you're confused or are you just messing around

i will explain if you tell me what you don't understand exactly !
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Well? Im not messing around Maybe I should have said yes im messing around? Or im having a brain fart?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well? Im not messing around Maybe I should have said yes im messing around? Or im having a brain fart?


well i'm not sure which bit you don't understand :

- top 10 from the freeroll league go through
- top 5 from the buy-in go though
- top 5 from the bugsy's league go through

if a player qualifies in 2 leagues then the extra spot goes to position 11 in the freeroll league.

if say 4 players qualify in 2 leagues then positions 1 to 14 will qualify from the freeroll league.

if say 2 players qualify in all 3 leagues then again positions 1 to 14 will qualify from the freeroll league.

does that help ?

p.s. i can do a full scenario if it's really hard to understand.
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NO! I dont want you to write more than you have to, and I dont Know why? Im thinking that In any of the leagues if you win a game (for example) you get 12points 2nd place 10 points ect. ect. and the points total up at the end??? I dont know what I was thinking, I best stay out of this 1, Have you ever thought of a points systems? Im grasping but it could work??


I understand the way it is now, so dont explain, TY
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fooraces, you thinking of a total leaderboard with points scored from all 3 leagues? and then end of season top 20 from the total leaderboard goes in to the bonanza?

kind of like that idea too and have been thinking of something similar. But i think that most would object to that, maybe saying they dont have enough money on too many different sites. and i guess the majority are freeroll players and they might think those playing the buy in leagues gets an unfair advatage in to the bonanza

well that was my interpretation of your posts foor..
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Have you ever thought of a points systems? Im grasping but it could work??

yes, but i think this one ends up as the most flexible and keeps the leagues seperate at the same time. the bonanza should always be seen as a bonus event and not integral to the leagues themselves. i'd like to think we would all be playing these games bonanza or not !

I understand the way it is now, so dont explain, TY

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fooraces, you thinking of a total leaderboard with points scored from all 3 leagues? and then end of season top 20 from the total leaderboard goes in to the bonanza?

kind of like that idea too and have been thinking of something similar. But i think that most would object to that, maybe saying they dont have enough money on too many different sites. and i guess the majority are freeroll players and they might think those playing the buy in leagues gets an unfair advatage in to the bonanza

well that was my interpretation of your posts foor..





GREAT! some one understands what I was trying to say! and your right Muratore! I guess it would kinda be unfair! But! if you and me could highjack this thing we would make it work
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great input guys & you know all ideas are welcome.
But I think H has it spot on, plus we will probably end up with 3 times as many playing the freerolls, & that is our core concept 'Quality Freerolls'

fooraces & muratore (plus a silent member, not sure who that is)


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Nuff is our silent Partner already in the organazation, he's our in and its to late to stop us!

Our agreement is to change the name to NLP Nuff Local Poker!
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oh no! not the comfy chair
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i hate to spoil the party here guys but could we get back on thread please !

thanks harry
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What about if you sweep all three leagues (qulify for the top 20 bononza in all three leagues) you get a little broom on the same line you would have a trophy!
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What about if you sweep all three leagues (qulify for the top 20 bononza in all three leagues) you get a little broom on the same line you would have a trophy!


cute idea ..........i'll think on that one !
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Harry I think that it should be mandatory that if your profile is not filled out in full, then no medal! this sucks that ppl play in here and we dont know who they are, or even if they are a member, or maybe it should be back to pre-regester for all events not fair! 4As
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Harry I think that it should be mandatory that if your profile is not filled out in full, then no medal! this sucks that ppl play in here and we dont know who they are, or even if they are a member, or maybe it should be back to pre-regester for all events not fair! 4As


well the difference here was that i believe this wasn't a forum member that won the game tonight.

we can't really make it mandatory but can only ask that members to fill in their profiles and hope also that they don't give out passwords to non-members. it's a bit harsh to say "no profile, no medal " don't you think.

it's only ever been the freerolls that have ever been pre-registration but if our buy-in numbers become high enough, we could look at this in the future.

fortunately this hasn't happened for awhile so i think we just have to grin and bear this one mate !
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isnt this a kind of password theft?

and when it comes to pw theft cant you ask cake to have the payout returned to the forum?

i know poker.com ban players playing forum tourneys without being elligeble to play them.

not sure about cake, but might be worth a try!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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isnt this a kind of password theft?

and when it comes to pw theft cant you ask cake to have the payout returned to the forum?

i know poker.com ban players playing forum tourneys without being elligeble to play them.

not sure about cake, but might be worth a try!


if it was a restricted freeroll possibly yes but for a buy-in, i'm not so sure.
we'll check this backstage and see if it's worth persuing.

in the end it's free to join MLP, so very easy to get a password for the buy-ins. the freerolls are different because they are restricted to the Freeroll Members which is why we try to be strict with this.

what concerns me more is who gave out the password as it must be one of our members. just a shame really !
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

placing high in the OFC freeroll gives you points for the freeroll league.

i dont think a lot of us are playing the OFC buy in. but maybe we should have something like that in the buy-in league as well.

i have no idea really how many will play it and not what levels would be ok for points. there are 225 regged for it now but still lot of time left to reg for it. so maybe 4-500 playing?

just a suggestion..
150-200: 1 point
100-150: 2 points
75-100: 3 points
50-75: 4 points
30-50: 5 points
10-30: 6 points
3: 7 points
2: 8 points
1: 10 points

maybe too many levels but you get the idea... give something for the respective league even for those playing the buy-in. and perhaps promote more to play the future OFC buy-ins.
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i'm going to say no to this as i want the buy-in league to stand alone. also our numbers are excellent for the buy-ins and the main reason we made the OFC rule was more to because at that time, we only had a freeroll league and it was a bit of fun to try to add to the team spirit.

i am hoping that we may join other forum team competition soon but this will not have points included in the freeroll league (this is why i have also lowered the points for the OFC now) as if this becomes a president, things will be way too complicated for future events.
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was just a thought in my head when i woke up this morning after not enough sleep and i thought id give it a try.. you never know if it had been overlooked or not

but i should have known. harry dont overlook these things
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was just a thought in my head when i woke up this morning after not enough sleep and i thought id give it a try.. you never know if it had been overlooked or not

but i should have known. harry dont overlook these things


i do mate, i do.

.........and it's always good to have someone keeping me on my toes !
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive had a lot of thoughts over this thread and the only suggestion i have came up with is

LET ME WIN THE NEXT LEAGUE

thinking of starting a vote on this see wot you all think ?

all those in favour of me winning plz stick your hand up
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: buy in suggetion Reply with quote

Well I think in the buy in league games everyone should leatst get a point.. cause there buying into the tourney... and then you can start like haveind the points goi up when they make it the final table.. just a thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the idea's comming Adam, we are always keen to see what changes we can make to improve our site.

However, I cannot see any benefit from this one because as everyone receives a point for buying in, it is no different score wise than now; just with the goal posts moved slightly.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keep the idea's comming Adam, we are always keen to see what changes we can make to improve our site.

However, I cannot see any benefit from this one because as everyone receives a point for buying in, it is no different score wise than now; just with the goal posts moved slightly.



that's right.

also, almost all of our buy-ins are money added events so i would hope that makes each game better value than your average fare.

the league is very much a bonus to make things more interesting for our members (and the backstage team of course   ), with MLP adding another $50 on top of all the money added.

there's always pros and cons to scoring systems although i think for our leagues the top 10 works well, especially as we spread the prize pool a little further (normally top 5 pay).

you might want to take a look at The MLP/Bugsy H.O.R.S.E. League as this offers a slightly different scoring system with all positions collecting. this is because the pay-out system is more standard with less players making the money (last game had 14 entrants - top 3 paid). although i am not a big fan of the all players score system, i think in this case it makes sense !


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Another Idea for a leagiue game.. Reply with quote

how about having like a last man standing league.. where u start out with so many players and at the end of the tourney the person with the lowest amount chip may not play in the league and so forth keeps each week till there is 1 left and if you miss the next game you are elimnated or something in that matter.. just an idea...I have some more...just like thie league it is one of the easier forums to read and undertstand.. and u dont need to do 1 million things to qualify for stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Another Idea for a leagiue game.. Reply with quote

addam00 wrote:
how about having like a last man standing league.. where u start out with so many players and at the end of the tourney the person with the lowest amount chip may not play in the league and so forth keeps each week till there is 1 left and if you miss the next game you are elimnated or something in that matter.. just an idea...I have some more...just like thie league it is one of the easier forums to read and undertstand.. and u dont need to do 1 million things to qualify for stuff.


hey addam

thanks for the ideas - keep them coming.

we won't be starting any new leagues for a little while until we have established what we have. the new bugsy's league has only just started it's 1st season and the buy-in league is into it's 2nd season with double the amount of games from the 1st.

your idea could be something for the future though. thx h !
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like we have a muratore jr. on our hands!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

takes more to become a muratore than just constantly come with good suggestions
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: another idea Reply with quote

how about in one of your but games have a bounty tourney.. i know some of yo are not fans of bounty tournies.. but I think it would be intersting. how about a rebuy tourney but just use 1 rebuy or 1 add on tha way people cat comming in... but I guess if u do it on a but in tourney people are likely not to buy back in, and my other one is that i have not seen in awile is like a late night tourney or a midnight tourney something in that mattter... these are just ideas for future playing i guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've actually had some bounties on people's head in past tournies and I'm sure there will be more in the future.
Also there is always a bounty on the League Winners in the End Of The Season Bonanza.
I knocked out the cunning Brian Wilis in the last End Of The Season Bonanza and received his bounty! But he deserved it for taking my trophy!  

As for rebuys and add ons we've discussed this before HERE.
As for late night touneys, this is difficult because of the differnt time zones a late night tourney for us would be a 3am tourney for other people.  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: someone proably suggest it here but ill try and ask Reply with quote

how about a priavte table for just some cash game? where only our members can play.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: someone proably suggest it here but ill try and ask Reply with quote

addam00 wrote:
how about a priavte table for just some cash game? where only our members can play.


addam, we already have that for SNG's.

click the link "Propose a Bugsy's SNG" that's in my signature line below and it will direct you to the right place !

were you taking about a ring game ?

we should probably do a poll for that but it could be possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think a win in a bugsy league event should get a medal of its own instead of the green "special events" one.

it is a league of its own and deserves a special medal for a win in it.
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