Showdown Value ?

Ramster · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: Showdown Value ?

Do i have showdown value here ?

** Hand # 2675549286 starting - 2009-06-21 01:22:51
** Wisniewski XXXIX [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 NL - Cash Game) Real Money

RagingBull69 sitting in seat 1 with €87.21[Dealer]
Dagobert sitting in seat 2 with €64.82[Sitting out]
languid sitting in seat 3 with €49.17
dilution sitting in seat 4 with €46.69
Nautipuzz sitting in seat 5 with €67.48
-Ramster- sitting in seat 6 with €50.44
palo-alto sitting in seat 7 with €27.97
hald001 sitting in seat 8 with €89.69
Astro1423 sitting in seat 9 with €21.00
risk67 sitting in seat 10 with €19.93
languid posted the small blind - €0.25
dilution posted the big blind - €0.50

** Dealing cards to -Ramster-: As, Qd
Nautipuzz folded
-Ramster- raised to €2.00
palo-alto folded
hald001 folded
Astro1423 folded
risk67 folded
RagingBull69 called - €2.00
languid folded
dilution folded

** Dealing the flop: 6h, 3h, 3d
-Ramster- bet - €2.50
RagingBull69 called - €2.50

** Dealing the turn: 5s
-Ramster- checked
RagingBull69 bet - €5.00
-Ramster- raised to €10.00
RagingBull69 called - €10.00

** Dealing the river: 2s

Do i check bet or what
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harry_lime · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject:

Looks like you are probably behind so the only way you can win the pot is with a good sized bet. I'm thinking your opponent may well have a medium sized over pair (unless he was drawing to the flush or straight but then probably would have taken a free river card), so the question is, can you get him/her off the pot with a good bluff and is it worth the risk.

We don't knnow his playing style either which makes it more difficult to have a clear idea of the hand.

Be nice to hear some other variations on this.
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Miklosik · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject:

I think you have to fire the last bullet. I think the villian is drawing to the flush. By position, it would be hard to put him on any of the crap out on the board, (unless you have him tagged as an ace rag kind of player) as it would be hard to put you on the board.

You've played it like a made hand thus far except for the turn. And his bet there was purely informational, I think. There is already enough in this pot to make it worthwhile for him to call any bet you put out on the river, so he probably will. But if you don't bet it, he sure as hell will and then what you gonna do?
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Ramster · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject:

So checking isn't the way to go
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Miklosik · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject:

if he had an overpair or a set, he would repop with a flush draw or unlikely str8 draw showing. He wouldn't want any fisherman in there. I wouldn't check the river.
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Ramster · Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject:

Well i figured i was behind but i didnt think that he liked his hand too much(probly mid pair)
So i had to fire the last bullet

I hoped the smallish bet made it look like i was very strong especially after the check/raise on the turn
It seemed to do the trick

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Miklosik · Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:

woohoo!! Thataboy Den. Villan missed his flush. Good bet.
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