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Know-nuffin

7-2 off suit... when do you bet

Two hands from the same SnG.

I didn't try anything cute with 7-2 off in either hand.

In the first (a sb v bb) I benefited from a bet to see where I was. Would you have raised pre-flop.  

The second time with 7-2 off, following a free look and check to the river I hit bottom pair and my bet was insta-folded to.

It made me consider, could I have bet earlier in the hand.

Spoiler:

Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/02/03 11:40:01 GMT [2009/02/03 6:40:01 ET]
Table '138227360 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: wingZ (1625 in chips)
Seat 2: CashInBar (1365 in chips)
Seat 5: PsychoDad123 (1590 in chips)
Seat 6: chrs83 (2595 in chips)
Seat 7: kirill1989pr (1285 in chips)
Seat 8: herbiehackit (3870 in chips)
Seat 9: Know-nuffin (1555 in chips)
Seat 10: Ervimpiro (1115 in chips)
wingZ: posts the ante 10
CashInBar: posts the ante 10
PsychoDad123: posts the ante 10
chrs83: posts the ante 10
kirill1989pr: posts the ante 10
herbiehackit: posts the ante 10
Know-nuffin: posts the ante 10
Ervimpiro: posts the ante 10
Know-nuffin: posts small blind 50
Ervimpiro: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Know-nuffin [2c 7h]
wingZ: folds
CashInBar: folds
PsychoDad123: folds
chrs83: folds
kirill1989pr: folds
herbiehackit: folds
Know-nuffin: calls 50
Ervimpiro: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 2s 9s]
Know-nuffin: bets 100
Ervimpiro: folds
Uncalled bet (100) returned to Know-nuffin
Know-nuffin collected 280 from pot
Know-nuffin: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 280 | Rake 0
Board [3c 2s 9s]
Seat 1: wingZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CashInBar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PsychoDad123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: chrs83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kirill1989pr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: herbiehackit (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Know-nuffin (small blind) collected (280)
Seat 10: Ervimpiro (big blind) folded on the Flop



Spoiler:

Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/02/03 11:49:41 GMT [2009/02/03 6:49:41 ET]
Table '138227360 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: wingZ (1955 in chips)
Seat 2: CashInBar (1155 in chips)
Seat 5: PsychoDad123 (1370 in chips)
Seat 6: chrs83 (2155 in chips)
Seat 7: kirill1989pr (1305 in chips)
Seat 8: herbiehackit (5155 in chips)
Seat 9: Know-nuffin (1905 in chips)
wingZ: posts the ante 15
CashInBar: posts the ante 15
PsychoDad123: posts the ante 15
chrs83: posts the ante 15
kirill1989pr: posts the ante 15
herbiehackit: posts the ante 15
Know-nuffin: posts the ante 15
herbiehackit: posts small blind 75
Know-nuffin: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Know-nuffin [2c 7s]
wingZ: folds
CashInBar: folds
PsychoDad123: calls 150
chrs83: folds
kirill1989pr: folds
herbiehackit: folds
Know-nuffin: checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kh Ts]
Know-nuffin: checks
PsychoDad123: checks
*** TURN *** [4h Kh Ts] [3d]
Know-nuffin: checks
PsychoDad123: checks
*** RIVER *** [4h Kh Ts 3d] [2h]
Know-nuffin: bets 150
PsychoDad123: folds
Uncalled bet (150) returned to Know-nuffin
Know-nuffin collected 480 from pot
Know-nuffin: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 480 | Rake 0
Board [4h Kh Ts 3d 2h]
Seat 1: wingZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CashInBar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PsychoDad123 folded on the River
Seat 6: chrs83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kirill1989pr (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: herbiehackit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Know-nuffin (big blind) collected (480)

Miklosik

If you had bet the entire hand and your opponent called, you would have to wondering whether or not your opponent had hit middle pair or bottom pair.  Limit poker encourages fishing and online poker rewards fishing.  I think the hands were played very well as is.
DangerMouse

Usually from the button or the cutoff in APF games

I think you played both hands just fine.

Leading out at the flop in the first hand is a good tactic. The sb can be profitable if you play it right and when you`re up against just the bb you`re probably right to bet anytime you make a pair.

The second hand you might have been able to take it on the turn but it would have been a risky play imo. You could probably have checked it down and won but I don`t mind the value bet on the river, he might call with Ax and pay you off a little.
SystEmsuX

Second hand, I would've checked the river.  On the other hand, I pushed all in the other night with 72o vs. an early limper for about 9 big blinds cuz I'm stupid like that.

Opponent had A7s, I hit trips 2s and took it down, of course.  Finished itm--no good donk goes unrewarded.
NateTrib

first hand: i know you're a runner but dont be scared to walk  

second hand: your only getting called by hands that beat you so i dont like a bet on the river
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