Another bubble play question

Know-nuffin · Another bubble play question

Last Saturday in the Nordica 5k GTD I had just doubled up to a safe place to go through the bubble.

From middle order I picked up 3-3.

Everyone folded to my seat.

Acting after me was a big stack that wasn't shy of calling bets and a similar short-ish stack to me on the bb.

Looking only at the money spots ($50 paid to 20 through 11 places) I laid them down.

I would have flopped a set and turned a house.

The bubble burst at that moment.

In and around the bubble, do you narrow your calling range.

Do you think widening you pre-flop betting range at this point (if 1st to act) is a good idea too.

mrchallie · Another bubble play question

I know the situation. Can you imagine a $1,000,000.00 BUBBLE? I can`t but even $50.00 gets it blown up in front of your face. We definitely get a lil bit off our game. And it figures the set and then the whole house had to grind it in huh,,,

Miklosik

This is usually where I go wrong. Every time. If everyone has folded to you, I push with the 33. Hopefully, everyone else has the mentality of narrowing their ranges at this point in the game, and they fold. You say the tall stack isn't shy when calling bets. Maybe that's how he got that big stack. He is the only one likely to call and you can expect a race. But better to race only 1 other person than wait around hoping for a bigger hand and finding that 6 others are playing it too.

Ramster

You say you were safe with the bubble approaching therefore i think its an easy lay down
At this stage of a tourney i dont wanna be calling off any chips its either raise or fold imo

DangerMouse

Gandalf

I don't share your opinion

maybe thats why I suck at poker, but I woulda minraise and if the big stack just calls - I'm fine and see what comes up(fold to a reraise). If he folds and the shortish player in BB pushs - I woulda insta call him.

Dunno if thats too much of a risk but I won't fold any pp in this situation when everybody is scary of the bubble

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Call me donkey but I would have tried to play this hand

zarger11

I am not changing my play too much around the bubble unless i pick up my aggression. I am not playing to cash, I am playing to win...so I am not going to cruise into the money.

However, I think your fold is OK there. You really need to understand that if you raise, you should be willing to put all your chips in there.

If you are trying to set mine...the players in the hand before you, should be giving you at least 15:1 implies odds. Since no one had opened, I could make an arguement for a standard open. You just got chips and were safe, therefore it is easier to put you on a real hand since you are entering action when you really didnt need to.

Arjonius

What was your stack, and what were the blinds at the time? Pushing may be okay if you're in the orange or red M zone, but makes a lot less sense if you're in the green or yellow. Also, do I have reason to believe I have a tight image at this table?

Without knowing these things, my general preference is to raise or fold. And a normal raise to at lease 2.5 BB, and 3x is probably better since it gives people a bit more encouragement to fold - and I'd prefer not to see a flop out of position with this hand.

Know-nuffin

L0gan

Well, its a lot of thinks to be present.

You said that if you go, make a house, so, it means the guy with the big stack play with someone else, how many more people play that hand?.

3-3 hand in the midle suposed to be a fold, you can play in button or aside, but in midle with a big stack after is no good call, the guy can raise and then come other guys latter that also can reraise. Thats the importance of how many people come after the big stack, if only one or if are 3 more.

If you are safe and go for the money, you trow away and is ok.

if you decide to go, you can just call, because if you raise the bigstack can reraise you and that can compromise all your chips and remember you was safe before enter the hand.

if you decide to go, you also can raise to see if someone after the big stack fold, but with the idea if someone reraise, you better fold, or call the reraise, is up to you.

so can go and see the flop, if nothing happens for your hand trow away.

Other thinks to consider, you said you just double to a safe place, the big stack play in that hand?, if he lose with you in that hand or the others guys after him maybe they fold in this hand if you raise, also, the other guy that play in the game with the big stack, was lower or higher in stack than you?, in the Bubble people that go for the money usually play very tight, and with the raise they fold, so if the other guy have less chips than you, the raise is for try that him fold and only you and the big S play.

Remember, is more than one way to play a hand, and more important, when you fold a hand and see that if you was there you win, dont let that afect you, you can trow a 7-2 and see 772 in the flop, but correct think was trow it away, so, its ok trow a 33 in midle position when you are safe. If you are unsafe or you are the big stack may be is better case to play it, or in the begining of a tourney when the blinds are low.

Know-nuffin

Thanks for the reply.