Collusion In A 10c Game Or Just A Bad Player?

DangerMouse · Collusion In A 10c Game Or Just A Bad Player?

These are back-to-back hands and I simply cannot understand the UTG`s fold in the first hand, then his call in the second.

Stage #1825834959 Tourney ID 4434369 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit 60 - 2009-08-11 20:15:23 (ET)
Table: 30733814 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - JRDEATON (191 in chips)
Seat 3 - GOALDENOLDIE (1,253 in chips)
Seat 4 - _WAYLANDER_ (1,485 in chips)
Seat 5 - CLB92873 (6,368 in chips)
Seat 8 - SWEET777 (2,413 in chips)
Seat 9 - CHIHUAHUA36 (1,790 in chips)
GOALDENOLDIE - Posts small blind 30
_WAYLANDER_ - Posts big blind 60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to _WAYLANDER_ [Qh 6s]
CLB92873 - Calls 60
SWEET777 - Folds
CHIHUAHUA36 - Folds
JRDEATON - All-In(Raise) 191 to 191
GOALDENOLDIE - Folds
_WAYLANDER_ - Folds
CLB92873 - Folds
JRDEATON - returned (131) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JRDEATON - Does not show
JRDEATON Collects 210 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(210)
Seat 2: JRDEATON (dealer) collected Total (210) All-In
Seat 3: GOALDENOLDIE (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: _WAYLANDER_ (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: CLB92873 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: SWEET777 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CHIHUAHUA36 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

Stage #1825835345 Tourney ID 4434369 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit 60 - 2009-08-11 20:15:41 (ET)
Table: 30733814 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 2 - JRDEATON (341 in chips)
Seat 3 - GOALDENOLDIE (1,223 in chips)
Seat 4 - _WAYLANDER_ (1,425 in chips)
Seat 5 - CLB92873 (6,308 in chips)
Seat 8 - SWEET777 (2,413 in chips)
Seat 9 - CHIHUAHUA36 (1,790 in chips)
_WAYLANDER_ - Posts small blind 30
CLB92873 - Posts big blind 60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to _WAYLANDER_ [6s 6c]
SWEET777 - Raises 120 to 120
CHIHUAHUA36 - Folds
JRDEATON - All-In(Raise) 341 to 341
GOALDENOLDIE - Calls 341
_WAYLANDER_ - Calls 311
CLB92873 - Calls 281
SWEET777 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [6h Jd 5d]
_WAYLANDER_ - All-In 1,084
CLB92873 - Calls 1,084
GOALDENOLDIE - All-In 882
*** TURN *** [6h Jd 5d] [10c]
*** RIVER *** [6h Jd 5d 10c] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JRDEATON - Shows [Qs Qd] (One pair, queens)
GOALDENOLDIE - Shows [Js Ah] (One pair, jacks)
_WAYLANDER_ - Shows [6s 6c] (Three of a kind, sixes)
CLB92873 - Shows [4d 9d] (jack high)
_WAYLANDER_ Collects 404 from side pot-2
_WAYLANDER_ Collects 2,646 from side pot-1
_WAYLANDER_ Collects 1,484 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(4,534:1,484,2,646,404)
Board [6h Jd 5d 10c 7s]
Seat 2: JRDEATON HI:lost with One pair, queens [Qs Qd - P

,P

,B

]
Seat 3: GOALDENOLDIE (dealer) HI:lost with One pair, jacks [Js Ah - P

,B

,P

,B

]
Seat 4: _WAYLANDER_ (small blind) won Total (4,534) All-In HI:(4,534) with Three of a kind, sixes [6s 6c - P

,B

,P

,B

]
Seat 5: CLB92873 (big blind) HI:lost with jack high [4d 9d - B

,B

,P

,B

]
Seat 8: SWEET777 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CHIHUAHUA36 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

Miklosik

sweet jesus. That has to be the worst play i've encountered in a real money game.

If he was trying to feed chips to Deaton, he would have at least min raise utg in the first hand.

And if protecting Deaton in the second hand, his call of your raise makes no sense at all as the cat is already out of the bag.

Either way, collusion or no, it was terribly played imo. Guy can't even cheat decently so how'd he get that stack in the first place.

Ramster

I dont know why he didnt call in the first hand
Just terrible play IMO

But why do you think it is collusion with Deaton
It looks more to me like he is trying to protect/attack Goalden or even try and take you down DM

do you know/have history with this guy

On the 2nd hand he was getting 4/1 on the BB to call i dont see anything wrong with that

Still getting at least 2/1 on the flop

He has the chips to make the call and if he is in collusion with Goalden its an easy call with the chance of either tripling him up or taking the pot himself

But it is a 10c tourney so nothing would surprise me in a game like that