I may have played this wrong

Brian Wills · I may have played this wrong

I will kick things off with this hand as some believe I played it wrong & maybe i did
Considering the tightness of most MLP games early on should I have bet out on the flop, as this would be my normal play away from mlp games?

& what do you think of the early position call?

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Mad4Cards

Once you checked the flop he knew his 8 was good but you had 2 more excellent chances to bet him off the hand. persoanlly I would have reraised a pot size bet on the turn representing AQ or QQ . If he still calls then you have another shot when the J hits to let him know that card didn't scare you.

Miklosik

Just my opinion here - The preflop bet, he has to put you on a strong Ace or a pocket pair. Being out of position, post flop I think you have to represent the pp and bet out. The check there proves the strong ace and not the pp. Since he already has the that info, maybe a strong bet on the turn could be the answer, make him think you have AQ and not AK.

PoolDemon

well, imo, 2nd UTG shouldn't have even called the BB, let alone the raise to 100, it is a weak hand, any player that regularly cashes in tournaments does not play that kind of hand from such an early position for obvious reasons.

i'll describe what i think of both hands :

I'm 8-9, i limp 2nd from UTG, BB raises to 100, I call only with the idea of making a play off the flop. flop give me 8844, I'm betting 3/4 of the pot as BB checked to me, I doubt BB will call as he has to know I know he only has a big ace, or slow playing a big hand, if he calls & checks the turn, I bet large, take the chance that he doesn't have a made hand, & with AK, this would be an insta-fold by any experianced player.

I'm AK, I get my re-raise called by 2nd UTG, who limped into the pot, have to put them on a weak hand, as they didn't re-raise me back, I have to bet the flop, @ leat 100-150, if called, bet 250-300 on turn, & bet the pot on the river if still called, which I can't see happening as that hand (89) is, by the river, easily beaten.

some figures to consider :

6 players left that could call or raise, including SB & BB, the odds of 8-9 os winning is less than 16% when the BB was called.
now that you called you are heads up, 8-9os vs AKos is a 35%-65% dog.
Any 2 cards can win, but playing a marginal hand in early position shows that luck instead of skill and knowledge is being used, especially with the lack of betting, as at least that would have shown it was called only for the purpose of a bluff etc...

just my lil ol 0.02 cents worth...

KNOWHEN2

KNOWHEN2

Maybe Haryy hit the nail in a post on a different thread.

Simply put lets up the entry fee to all our games.
Mostly i think the CONSISTANT bad play is from members that do not use the forum, so they never pick up on the standard of play or the helpfull hints posted, these players are not new to poker they chose not to use the forum they play for fun and if they get lucky so be it, they try to use cash won from us and loads of other forum games to fund there gambling in bigger tournys.

Id rather play aginst 15 good players than a field that had 30 and half were any 2 card chas it down players.

So if resticting the entry only encouages good play and good players to join us slowly then so be it.

PS. how many of our members are not allowed to play at pokerhost??

Brian Wills

Laagen13

+1 of what pool said about calling in bad pos with 89os, a player that play luck instead of skill..
with AK there is 2 diffrent stands you can do with this hand i think,

*play it passive as in check/fold if you now don't hit on the turn, with a early limp and call of a 5xBB raise there can be a good chanse that you are up against a small pocket pair, or in some how suited gappers like KJs, K10s..

*Continue Bet on turn but then i would prob. slow down on turn and river and take a more Check/Fold stand. if you get called with a 150 bet, (cant really be less then 130-140) slow down is what you prob need to do if there doesnt get up a scare card for youre opponent..

those minimum bets on turn and river is a call for sure with AK. You call turn to hope to hit anything on river, and you call on river just to see youre opponents hand...

imo so is 89os a bad played hand from xTENSEx, and AK is ok played by you Brian..

Mad4Cards

HOUSECATS

I think you played the hand right. I have seen this player in other games he plays realy lose. if he gets a pair he well not fold. and sence you did not hit the flop with your AK you knew you were probably behind at this stage.no point in betting into someone that won't fold. so your check to see another card was the best for you. I think if you bet out on the turn you would have lost more chips.

Ramster

This hand was played badly by both players imo
I dont really like the pre flop call by the 89
but checking the flop with the AK is as bad
With the board pairing
Youre either in front here or well behind so you wanna define the other hand
Checking just leaves you with a harder decision on the turn if they decide to bet out
From the way it looks this hand was played if you just called 2x 20 bets on turn and river you probly got away from the hand cheap

Mrs know-nuffin

I'm not really sure that you played the hand wrong Brian.

You bet when you thought your were in front and kept your losses low when you thought you were behind, a canny read.

What I think you may have done wrong is discuss the hand with XtenseX straight after who was not going to be told by the person whose chips he had won that he had played the hand wrong. This only caused you to get more annoyed and then a hand or two later you pushed on a hand and was out.

I remember me catching you out with a raggy ace early on in my mlp days and I felt quite chuffed that I had caught you. You queried my choice of cards at the time but it went over my head. Then afterwards on mlp you explained your comment and it became clear to me that for the most part my choice would lose me more than I'd win, but at the time, in the game, you may not be ready to see or hear that.