Trent
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Is Online Poker rigged or not?Is Online Poker rigged or not?
Honestly do you guys think it is or not? I keep hearing guys complaining that it is 
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Brian Wills
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Over a period of time you will earn more money on-line by not slow playing. The reason for this is that you will also incur far less ‘bad beats’. People seem to think that they get more beats On-Line than in a live game. My answer to that is simple:
Yes you probably do, and the reason is, If a study were carried out, I’d put money on the fact that on-line poker hands get to river 10-20% more than in a live game. I would also wager that an on-line card room rake is at least 20% higher per hand than at a live game.
So overall, players take more chances on-line. Unless it’s obvious that you have the ‘nuts’, always bet your good hands STRONG.
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Paul T
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ONLINE POKER ISNT RIGGED
BUT
LIFE IS RIGGED...and here is the proof. The other day I got in line at WalMart with only two items and just one person ahead of me. Meanwhile, this biker chick gets in line next to me but has two people ahead of her. But then the cashier twists her ankle and I have to move to the other register because this one is closing. So now I am in line behind the biker chick and SHE gets done ahead of me. When I get to the register they need to do a price check that takes 6 minutes! CLEARLY RIGGED.
I mean, what are the odds that the biker chick would suck out on the aisle? There were five open lanes, so I had FOUR other outs...but none of them hit. I pushed in line early making it obvious that I was in a hurry, but does she move? No. Guess she thought I was bluffing. LIFE IS RIGGED! 
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Guest
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Re: Is Online Poker rigged or not? | Trent wrote: | Is Online Poker rigged or not?
Honestly do you guys think it is or not? I keep hearing guys complaining that it is |
Is online poker rigged? Is the pope a catholic ?
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xxflip
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Voted don't be silly. All major rooms are definately not rigged, they would be busted pretty easily and would get in very large legal trouble.
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truushot
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Who exactly is going to catch them? The original program, i.e., the random generator and software written to use it are the same program. I'll believe when they open their software up and I mean every hand to an American auditing company that has no vested interest. All I read about these auditing companies is that they are in the pockets of the poker sites.
You can't prove a negitive. Actually if you think about it, it would be bad business for them not to create action. REAL POKER IS BORING, hours on hours of nothing hands. Online I don't go 1 minute without seeing AK vs JJ or something like that. It just isn't real.
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harry_lime
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i think generally it has much more to do with the card generator. some sites are more realistic than other but some sites throw up hand after hand where 2 or 3 players will consistantly hit a big one. obviously this is more exciting for newcomers to on-line poker and keeps their interest. not so funny for the more serious player though.
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nubby111
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The random card generator is not as random as you think. I've been a Network Engineer Consultant for almost 15 years and I'm here to tell you that the random generator is a complex Algorythm, not random. It is very secure and almost impossible to crack. That's part of the weekly security updates that we download from the sites. The technology does not exist yet to give a true random card deal as we might get with the automatic shufflers in our local card rooms. I say automatic shufflers because some By Hand Dealers are not random either!!
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HOUSECATS
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ON LINE POKER RIGGEDi really dont know but i do wonder sometimes when i see alot of the same players winning in the big tournies 
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Natalie777
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ROFL
Could it possibly be that they are good at playing poker?
I think it is silly to think on line poker is rigged. I know for a fact that live bad beats exist ...... the only difference is that you play more hands on line then you do live, therefore it is only logical that you would see more bad beats.
I know of a lot of professionals that play on line and promote on line sites, do you honestly believe that they would stake their good names to promote something that is rigged?
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xxflip
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| Natalie777 wrote: | ROFL
Could it possibly be that they are good at playing poker?
I think it is silly to think on line poker is rigged. I know for a fact that live bad beats exist ...... the only difference is that you play more hands on line then you do live, therefore it is only logical that you would see more bad beats.
I know of a lot of professionals that play on line and promote on line sites, do you honestly believe that they would stake their good names to promote something that is rigged? |
Agreed, haha. The online players who win a lot of the big buyin tournaments are not site representatives or favorites. What a joke. A lot of the big buyin tournament winners will talk strategy with you over at pocketfives.com. Some of them even have strategical sites to teach you how they play for a fee, such as PokerXFactor.com or Cardrunners.com(they record their tournament or cash games and explain their important moves). It isn't garbage either, you'll get good information watching them.
Additionally, several of these online pros have gone to LIVE events and placed very well in them. For example, Devin Porter AKA Tranquil Chaos went online pro last year and this year he has already final tabled two WPT Events, to which he won satellites into online. I don't think he would've been able to make such an accomplishment had his online play been "rigged". He's a good player, simple as that.
Johnnybax, another great online tournament player and owner of that high rated tutorial site, PokerXFactor.com, is also an online pro who has had success in the live events. After winning a satellite online, he managed to place around 15th in the WPT Championship Event.
Now don't get me wrong, though I don't think so it is quite possible that smaller rooms may be rigged. However, there is no way that rooms such as Pokerstars, Paradise Poker, Full Tilt Poker, Bodog, or Ultimate Bet are rigged.
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olysports
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Online poker is not rigged. At first, I thought there were more bad beats online than in live poker. But recently in my live poker tournies, I've been seeing the same bad beats as in online poker, so no, online poker is not rigged.
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var14gas
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Heres my viewIt seems crazy allot of the time online how hands are dealt and it completely seems rigged but yet I think that we see so many more hands and so much faster online that it gives us the illusion that unbelievable hands are happening. In a live game you don't get to a showdown near as often to witness bad beats and nor does the dealer deal as fast to make it a more probable situation for serious runner runner beats.
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bmw608
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I do not think it is rigged ,but when you take a bad beat it feel like it is
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rabsel
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No it is not rigged. A online dealer is dealing more various card-combinations then a real dealer.
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lopezak
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I ll keep this real simple when i win of course its not rigged, when i lose bet your dam dollar its rigged! On a real note i think all in all its pretty legit, but is anything in this life 100%?
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prov1x
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Its not riggedIts not rigged, because its not always the same people that win, you cant just go all in everytime and expect to win, the better hand doesnt always win, and i've learned that the hard way like everyone else so Lets stop this complaining and just play and enjoy.
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strain
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Of course online poker aint rigged. The companies earn too much to risk it on being busted of having rigged poker tables. I hear complains about it being rigged all the time, and everytime I try to convince the player that it aint rigged..
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vsparky
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Well this hand started off pretty good, but as you see it turned.
I thought I was fine untill the cards turned over. Just glad I only had $12 with me at the table.
I see these types of hands dealt at most all poker rooms. In my opinion this deal worked exactly as intended , to increase that rake.
Indeed in this case my table went a little too all-in happy.
But as a result we got to see all the cards. Where else do you recall seeing this type of deal on a table??...
IN A Freeroll when everyone goes all in first hand. We dont usually get the oppertunity to most everyone's cards. I think it happens far more than we would even want to consider.
And Packone probably folded QQ 
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Natalie777
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Yep ....... seen it before, lucky you  It could have been way worse, you could have been Kojack007 ........ Yeah! seen this many times but something is wrong, Kojack was suppose to catch trips lol
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kengotwitz
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Re: Is Online Poker rigged or not?i think that online poker is not rigged we just all hope it is when we loose.  But i actually think some sites may and could be rigged but if they were there wouldnt be so many freaken online players.
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elbandido32
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Don't know but I have noticed that I have bad days right after I withdraw some money from the site. I always have bad runs after! I also have noticed that people wait to see if you are pre calling or folding or checking and i have heard of hackers that can see what u are going to do and bet on that! Also that some hackers can actually see your cards! I was playing a tourney on Pacific and someone was telling me what i was holding and what suits! That was freaky and I havent played there since!
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kirby420
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I dont think it is player collusion is the biggest scam so far out, apparently on the news they showed software that reveals others hands, is it true i doont know, ask ripleys belive it or not
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harry_lime
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if these things are happening, i personally don't think it's that widespread. certainly you have to wonder about the card generators sometimes and of course player collusion does go on (there's also the question of bots) but if you go to far down that line you'll end up quitting on-line poker forever.
if you think player collusion is going on, contact the site support and take screenshots. be aware but don't be afraid !!!
remember, it's a jungle out there ! 
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1rainbow
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sometimes i wonder.....keep in mind though that every gambling aspect of anything is always pro house, so house wins no matter what, unless they are new & can't get off the ground
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1FOIOL4POKER
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Sometimes I really have strong feelings that certain tournaments are fixed where players are not randomly but blackballed specifically to get the big wammy! I hate to think that way but by god I am laying on the bottom of the river! I dont just get rivered the river litteraly freakin turns into a tidal wave on me! Oh well LOL!
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Killerkali
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I dont think there is any real reason for a poker site to target anyone to "rig". Poker is poker whether your playing online or at a casino. Your odds of winning are alwasy against you..
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mcbride
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The sites may not be rigged per se but I find it disturbing when playing on poker stars, jungle and ok, these sites that often times have as many as four players at a table with all high pocket pairs at the same time. Naturally, this pits everyone against each other all in and then the lowest pair generally wins on the river or a flush comes...
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truushot
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Had a nice one at doylesroom yesterday. AA vs KK vs QQ vs JJ. Yeah it sure is random.
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mufc112
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i wouldnt say online poker is rigged. many people think it is because of the bad beats and unreal hands tht dont seem to happen in live poker but the truth is you play ay more hands online which means more weird things are goin to happen and they are going to happen more frequently
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KNOWHEN2
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| harry_lime wrote: | | i think generally it has much more to do with the card generator. some sites are more realistic than other but some sites throw up hand after hand where 2 or 3 players will consistantly hit a big one. obviously this is more exciting for newcomers to on-line poker and keeps their interest. not so funny for the more serious player though. |
There is your anwser
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fooraces
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I would like to take it one step further! For those of you who play regularly on Poker.com
I notice on the sit and goes that at least 50 % of the time there is 1 person that almost always wins the hands. Luck? skill? or something else.
When this happens no matter what any1 gets he wins. and sometime notice it in our games! and sometimes I never play a hand against this person untill way later in the game, after more people are gone because it can sometimes change, not always but sometimes.
This happens to me also! I start to notice it right away in the beginning of the game with any cards! and if I notice a pattern of cards winning that I folded, I get in there and play no matter what, and most times win, sometimes not.
I can think of a few games in here that it has happened to me where I cant lose! and a lot of sit and goes! where you cant lose!
I have referenced it before in here as "THE SEAT" If you get the seat its great!
Has anyone else noticed this who plays on .com??
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Luck never gives! it only lends!
I dont think that online poker is rigged, its just that the cards seem funny sometimes 
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pokerkat
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I have to say i play most at poker.com but recently went back to a few old haunts, and my first couple of days were geat and then the beats started lol
same ones as on poker.com
(river beats, pair over pair, set over set, fluch rivered by FH etc)
also the same Hot Seat phenomenon - i see it at every site i play
i also see it live - we have one player at our weekly pub game who plays any 2 cards and hits with them constantly and 'gets lucky' winning hand after hand, week after week.
No its not rigged.
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