I'm sure this has been discussed many, many times, but just curious how ya'll would play either in the following situations, for both AK off & AK suited (AFAIK, AKoff is listed as 10th best starting hand, AK suited is either 3rd or 4th best SH depending on where you look...)
you are the BB, lots of chips, near the bubble, button limps, & SB calls, the button slow played both KK & AQ suited in the last half hour...
you are UTG, also near bubble, you lead out 3x the BB, chips left are 15BB's, mid-late position re-raises you 4x the bet, and is known to you as a tight aggresive style player.
you are the button, 2 limpers already in, 1 is TAG, 1 is loose, BB is a maniac style with the chip lead, raising almost every pot, bubble has already burst, but a few spots away from the good money.
add any other scenario you like, I only listed 3 situations I was in recently...will let ya'll know what i did & what the results were or would have been...
Know-nuffin
I wanna be first to say it;
"I doesn't matter how I play AK ... I still get donked by a rag."
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PoolDemon
Know-nuffin wrote:
I wanna be first to say it;
"I doesn't matter how I play AK ... I still get donked by a rag."
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... ok, pretend it's NOT on merge mate
DangerMouse
Re: playing AK
PoolDemon wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed many, many times, but just curious how ya'll would play either in the following situations, for both AK off & AK suited (AFAIK, AKoff is listed as 10th best starting hand, AK suited is either 3rd or 4th best SH depending on where you look...)
PoolDemon wrote:
you are the BB, lots of chips, near the bubble, button limps, & SB calls, the button slow played both KK & AQ suited in the last half hour...
A pretty standard play for me here. I`m going to check and see a flop. If I hit my ace or king I`m looking to either check-raise or check-call (With the intention of check-raising the turn)
Not a situation I tend to raise from, especially with a tricky limper on the button. If I had him covered by a significant amount I might consider raising but 90% of the time I`m just seeing the flop before commiting myself.
PoolDemon wrote:
you are UTG, also near bubble, you lead out 3x the BB, chips left are 15BB's, mid-late position re-raises you 4x the bet, and is known to you as a tight aggresive style player.
In all honesty I would probably just push here as my first action. I`m happy enough to take the blinds or race.
But as you`ve outlined it makes it a tough situation. I have been listening to some online pros who are pretty adamant that with less than 20xBB you have to at least call and as you`ll only have about 3xbb left you might as well push and hope he hasn`t AA or KK. It really depends if I have any read on what kind of hands / how often he`s been 3-betting.
PoolDemon wrote:
you are the button, 2 limpers already in, 1 is TAG, 1 is loose, BB is a maniac style with the chip lead, raising almost every pot, bubble has already burst, but a few spots away from the good money.
It really depends on what position the TAG limper is in. If he`s UTG or UTG+1 I`d be really nervous about that limp a lot of the time. I`d probably call and give the BB a chance to raise and see what the TAG player does there. If he comes over the top of the BB I might well let my AK go.
Know-nuffin
Ok here's how I played them today on pokerstars.
Click to see full size image
Short stacked; I shoved over a limper or two.
PoolDemon
but as you can clearly see, it wasn't merge
Ramster
Re: playing AK
PoolDemon wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed many, many times, but just curious how ya'll would play either in the following situations, for both AK off & AK suited (AFAIK, AKoff is listed as 10th best starting hand, AK suited is either 3rd or 4th best SH depending on where you look...)
you are the BB, lots of chips, near the bubble, button limps, & SB calls, the button slow played both KK & AQ suited in the last half hour...
check
you are UTG, also near bubble, you lead out 3x the BB, chips left are 15BB's, mid-late position re-raises you 4x the bet, and is known to you as a tight aggresive style player.
All in baby
you are the button, 2 limpers already in, 1 is TAG, 1 is loose, BB is a maniac style with the chip lead, raising almost every pot, bubble has already burst, but a few spots away from the good money.
call
add any other scenario you like, I only listed 3 situations I was in recently...will let ya'll know what i did & what the results were or would have been...
LOL
Just read Neils after i posted this
PoolDemon
how I played 'em...
Spoiler:
hand 1, I had AK, I checked, ace on flop, checked, limper bet half pot, I called, blank on turn, I check, limpy bets pot, i shove, he calls with KK...
hand 2, I was the 3 better (had to throw in that one...) he called with AK suited, I had KK, flop was K 9 4, 2 of his suit, he checked, I pushed, he called, set of kings lived...
3rd hand (to clear things up dm, 1st limper was UTG +3) I pushed, only caller was 1st limper with QQ, hit the king on the turn...
gina12230
SUITED...Id bet pot , see what it brings in or out with the others ...the ones that stay in after that determine the next move ......
FLOP ....reveals at least two then id have to bet again , depending on if AK FLOPS as well , or A x2 wow that would be great!
(lol)flop reveals flush (woooohoooooooo) its on baby!
then id potbet again ..and and count on flush coming
Im still new but the odds for the flush are very appealing to me and of course I have palyed this out many times and recently (lol) and flop
..is good for that flush lols , then over I confidently go with it (allin)
At this point Ive lost all reasoning that i could be beaten lol
which I find that FULL HOUSE well it beats it! duh
(wonder where that is on the rookie scale) Thats where I am in my learning and experience level ...
still I am usually confident and play very agreesively with that hand ..it makes it more often then not... I like this hand its my favorite..to win and also my favorite to get beaten...sometimes it takes me a minute to catch on ..etc etc and so forth ans so on ..
gina12230
Know-nuffin wrote:
I wanna be first to say it;
"I doesn't matter how I play AK ... I still get donked by a rag."
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addam00
I guess iit for me it depmeds on how many people in the tournney or cash games sometimes i am aggresssive with them other times i play them lik any other hand i guess
gina12230
addam00 wrote:
I guess iit for me it depmeds on how many people in the tournney or cash games sometimes i am aggresssive with them other times i play them lik any other hand i guess
I second that!
Laagen13
Re: playing AK
PoolDemon wrote:
you are the BB, lots of chips, near the bubble, button limps, & SB calls, the button slow played both KK & AQ suited in the last half hour...
I would have raised 4-5xbb, just because it is the button, SB is 80% weak, so HU vs button that is tight sounds good to me.
PoolDemon wrote:
you are UTG, also near bubble, you lead out 3x the BB, chips left are 15BB's, mid-late position re-raises you 4x the bet, and is known to you as a tight aggresive style player.
Push all in, can't really fold AK vs a 3bet with that short stack.
PoolDemon wrote:
you are the button, 2 limpers already in, 1 is TAG, 1 is loose, BB is a maniac style with the chip lead, raising almost every pot, bubble has already burst, but a few spots away from the good money.
raise 5-6xbb, I dont see any problems of getting it in with AK vs the maniac if he so decides to play. AK is favourite over to many hands. and the limpers often is weak. Play for 1st, not one more step in the money
Kondai
Re: playing AK
PoolDemon wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed many, many times, but just curious how ya'll would play either in the following situations, for both AK off & AK suited (AFAIK, AKoff is listed as 10th best starting hand, AK suited is either 3rd or 4th best SH depending on where you look...)
you are the BB, lots of chips, near the bubble, button limps, & SB calls, the button slow played both KK & AQ suited in the last half hour...
you are UTG, also near bubble, you lead out 3x the BB, chips left are 15BB's, mid-late position re-raises you 4x the bet, and is known to you as a tight aggresive style player.
you are the button, 2 limpers already in, 1 is TAG, 1 is loose, BB is a maniac style with the chip lead, raising almost every pot, bubble has already burst, but a few spots away from the good money.
add any other scenario you like, I only listed 3 situations I was in recently...will let ya'll know what i did & what the results were or would have been...
1.) Raise x3, called re-raise and evauate flop, if got large shove then maybe folded.. it maybe not but mostly limp and re-raise or shove back when faced raise mostly villian will hold QQ+ maybe JJ with some guy. The point is will you risk big stack with at best conflip or underdog with KK AA.. it depend on guy stack to , if dealer short I may put him all-in.
2.) depend on my image at the table that make this guy not affraid to raise me, If I'm really loose then he may hold premium hand but not that premium mybe JJ QQ KK AA AJ AQ 1010 99 88 77 and the buttom prize paid if I really can affrod the lose of buyin by didn't get paid like I only buy in just $3 with my $2000 bankroll then I called , If this really big tournament Big prize and very high cost buyin I may sometimes folded.
3.) If you sure he would raise and want play AK then just limp and see what maniac do if he check, great but paly post-flop with cuation because 4-5 people may on the flop and only top pairs may not hold up. If he raise like x3 then just called if it come to HU and u hit u toppairs then great for u, if it totally miss just mucked it to maniac not worth to caught bluff he can have buttom pairs too, and it win your ace high.
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