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Know-nuffin
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Refeer Race... should it have startedFt on Reefer tonight, with the BB at 200, I have 2000, 9 left 3 get paid. From mid table I pick up a suited AK.
I am one of three or four short-ish stacked, Harry has me covered and calls my all in re-raise with 10-10.
It’s a classic race that Harry wins.
My question; should I have paid more respect to Harry’s pre-flop 3xbb raise. Would a call have been a better move by me.
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BlackTyson
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Re: Refeer Race... should it have started | Know-nuffin wrote: |
It’s a classic race that Harry wins. |
says it all  would have been my move too  .
9 left in the tourney and only 3 get paid - I won't wait and try to get chips 
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muratore
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i owuld most likely have pushed that too, you dont want to play more players than at most 1 when holding AK.
a 3 bb bet can be anything from AA to a complete bluff, probably not a bluff from that position.. but very well a hand that you have dominated.
if you hadnt pushed in that hand, i had already planned to reraise harrys bet!
but with his raise and your push my 88 was not as strong anymore and i had to fold. this time the 8 would have flopped and me taking you out and got a nice chip out of harrys stack and anything could have happened from there!
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HOUSECATS
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I think with your stack you could not just call. you did not want anyone else in the pot. You wanted a HU with Harry not a 3 or 4 poeple pot.
You had a great hand to push with you just lost the race. It is a game of risks and you have to take them
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Know-nuffin
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I'm really not so sure about this move. I only had A high pre-flop. I went in as the underdog and it didn't get any better.
Yes blinds and stacks play a big part in my thinking and the isolation was essential; however, as my only choice was all-in or fold, should it have been a fold.
Sure I wanted Harry's chips and was surprised he called with only 10-10; but to have progressed, is this a confrontation I could have avoided.
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harry_lime
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| Know-nuffin wrote: | | Sure I wanted Harry's chips and was surprised he called with only 10-10; but to have progressed, is this a confrontation I could have avoided. |
i had you well covered in chips and you only had 4 potential hands where you could be ahead. with what i already had in the pot, it was an automatic call for me i think (12/1300 in the pot - 1500 to call). my tournament life wasn't on the line and i was prepared to race.
if someone else had been in, i would have been out of there in a second.
from your point of view, that really was a 50/50 hand. hard to criticize the move but there is definately a good arguement for a fold here too. it's that old adage of avoiding bigger stacks when you're probably behind or in a race.
having said that, you were looking to double at this point and A K is a great hand to play in those situations.
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PoolDemon
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with only the top 3 geting paid, you had to get more chips @ that point, & you are holding the 4th best starting hand (when it's suited, off suit is 10th best) & facing a standard raise from the villian, who could be raising there with any kind of decent hand, from a made one like he had, to a weaker ace, AQ, AJ etc...if this is the spot you feel like putting it all in, it's a good push, getting it to HU is what you had to do, then flip that coin...
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Brian Wills
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Forget it being just top three getting paid.
AK suited & your stack is not that good, so if it was me my chips are allin in a heart beat, Harry could be stealing on the big stack or have any weaker ace. So if hes weak he folds but if he has a hand you are probably in a coin flip. If you had more chips you could have folded 
Perfect play in my book, you must win these coin flips if you are to win tourneys.
I play AK suited allin reraise at any final table unless I'm a big stack (top 3) against the chip leader, the blinds are high enough for players to steal & there is no stronger play than a re-raise 
In contrast I would like to talk about another hand. Miklosk raised from good position with AJ & I pushed allin with QQ, faced with a raise & a re-raise Kittykats pushed allin with AT & Mik correctly folds, in this situation & with a good stack you really must fold AT, Kitty lost 2 thirds of her stack here.
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BlackTyson
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| Brian Wills wrote: |
In contrast I would like to talk about another hand. Miklosk raised from good position with AJ & I pushed allin with QQ, faced with a raise & a re-raise Kittykats pushed allin with AT & Mik correctly folds, in this situation & with a good stack you really must fold AT, Kitty lost 2 thirds of her stack here. |
I don't want to criticize Kitty here but this hard pushing was in fact a questionable move there  . Insta fold for me in this situation.
Maybe she thought of a pocket pair and wanted a race but with this kicker - I doubt this  . So I really have no clue 
Kittyyyyyyyy have a worrrrrrrrrrd 
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