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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yikes that has happened to me one too many times on the bubble Straydog999 .... when I get pocket aces, I should just throw them at that point in a tourney

ROFL!!! Tru, where you been? Kinda miss your humor
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was crazy, i was playing on poker.com, with like four other people, i had A, 10 suited, and i go all in, the person after my folded, next two people call, one other person had another A, 10 but i wasnt suited, and the other has like 5, 4 of suit (no idea why he called.
well the flop didnt help anyone, turn didnt either, but then the river pops out with a 4!!
I dont know, all the noobs on poker sites ruin it for the real poker players...
i mean i wouldnt have minded spilting that pot haha.

this was my tenth post
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Worst ever was at Absolute pocket kk vs a8 vs 22 ring game 50/1.00 nl flop 8 k 2 22 bet 40.00 a8 called I called .......no possible flushes or straights so far turn 4 no biggie....22 bets 160.00 I raised to 400.00 the a8 put his 220.00 in 22 called he was all in......cards flip over im ecstatic great pot ...everythings dynamite until....the 2 on the river so quad 2s nailed my kkk....Yea I remember that one.OUCH...........Peace
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Sorry Harry Reply with quote

OK HARRY,

I felt i should put this here as i did suck out on u today in the horse league game; i thought u were bulling me as i was short stack so i went looking for my J.
Sorry i caught the flush on the river and crippled ur stack it was truly a bad beat on u not deserved.

Hey Harry, then House cats goes and does it to me when he hit his strt to my trips, 2 cards under 3 over iam on trips allin and house hits 6th street; poetic justice some would say, me i just call it online poker.

I think everyone in this situation played the correct way, in the first hand there was a chaser and wining hand with the cards showing, and in the second hand there was the same, but both times luck showed both sides of the same coin

Any way sorry m8.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Sorry Harry Reply with quote

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Any way sorry m8.


no need to apologize but let me explain how i saw it and why i can't agree that this was correct play live or online.

you had about 450 chips i believe and your bet is 30. it comes round to me with only 2 players in (included the bring in) and i raise it up to 150. what i didn't really understand was why not just fold here when you're only in for 30 ?

you had J 10 rag (unsuited), which isn't a good starting hands. for you to then re-raise (basically commiting yourself all-in) was just suicidal. i hadn't done much up to this stage and why would i bluff at a pot that was so small. maybe i'm wrong in this but i've never minded folding to what i think may be bluff if i'm not holding a good hand (unless i have the chips to make a play), especially if i don't have much invested.

but no worries, it's not the first or last time for me. i just couldn't really understand the thinking behind the move and we will have to agree to differ whether it was a correct play or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I have to agree with Harry. We see a lot of players in with hands that they would never play under a raise in a NoLimit game, I suppose its the nature of limit, & its much worse early on when the bets are low

Once the raise got to around 150 in this game the play did improve a little, but we still had poor starting hands calling raises. I wonder if its a bit of a release for some players....after so much NoLimit play they feel its the green light to play anything in the Horse

All said & done I think Grant knows he made a big mistake here, but overall I have seen a nice improvement in his game lately Maybe not Stud though
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Well, I am not gonna say if I would do that kind of play that kw did.... but I am gona say I liked Kw play .. ya you could tell me why i shouldnt do that kind of play..and you can tell me the stats and the odds and the proablity and stuff like that.. well there is one thing that you can not tell me is like a poker instinct.. sometimes you have that hand which you feel real good about and you know something good is gonna happen...no matter how much you put in or raise with.... I kinda know were kw is comming from. well you may disagree with his play but it was his play so in that sense Kw did the play that felt right play for him. so in that sense it was the right play wheather you agree or disagree with his play.. it was his play to play that way...no matter how the odds and stats were.. sometimes you just have that feeling and you have to go witrh it...KW you dont need to explain yourself on a play..Whether someone agrees with my play or not.. Yes MLP has help my play.. but I still dont let it change my game in all. Thats the great thing about poker everyones play and idea about a play is different..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Sorry Harry Reply with quote

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Any way sorry m8.


no need to apologize but let me explain how i saw it and why i can't agree that this was correct play live or online.

you had about 450 chips i believe and your bet is 30. it comes round to me with only 2 players in (included the bring in) and i raise it up to 150. what i didn't really understand was why not just fold here when you're only in for 30 ?

you had J 10 rag (unsuited), which isn't a good starting hands. for you to then re-raise (basically committing yourself all-in) was just suicidal. i hadn't done much up to this stage and why would i bluff at a pot that was so small. maybe I'm wrong in this but I've never minded folding to what i think may be bluff if I'm not holding a good hand (unless i have the chips to make a play), especially if i don't have much invested.

but no worries, it's not the first or last time for me. i just couldn't really understand the thinking behind the move and we will have to agree to differ whether it was a correct play or not.


Harry, I agree with you that in any other circumstances than the ones i put underneath it would have been a silly play.
what i will say is this i pushed chasing my J, because i could not put u on a big pocket pair, your board card was iam sure lower than my J, u had just taken a good pot by opening with a biggish raise and hitting late in the hand, so by opening with a 150 raise to a 30 bet, and 1 board card showing, i figured u were putting a move on the table, i had to go as i was PLAYING short stacked to an average 1100 stack table; if i remember correctly. It felt right at the time, BUT WHEN I SAW UR POCKET 10s i new i had miss read u.
You did not have the over cards, u had a pocket pair.
And at that point as Brian Say's i had 'made a mistake` according to standard play, but at what point dose the short stack play, at what point do u risk a mistake as the short stack, playing as the short stack by definition, 'in my eyes` means take a risk early to maximise ur chances based on info u have gathered in.

So yes, if i had had say 6,7 hundred in chips; it would have been a very bad call.
But with my chip count, the cards i`d had, the way the past few hands had played out, and only 1 up for action, 2 flat callers with low boards, it felt like the correct time to risk it.
The short stack can not wait for the perfect hand.

Yes i got lucky with a flush, very lucky.

But i made a similar play 2 hands later with trip 8s; and got dumped by an A height strt hit on 6th st.

I stand by my short stack play.
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It seems I take a bad beat every 5 or 10 mins.  If I told you a story about the last few I would be here all night typing.  I almost always get my chips in with a dominant  hand but lose 85% of the time to a suck out.
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I was dealt A-A and this loud mouth raised $10 so I call. The flop hits A-J-J, he bets another $10 and I call, excited as can be. The turn is a 2 and i`m thrilled! "The Mouth" puts me all in for another $25 or so. And he shows his PP, 2-2 and what do you know, a 2 hits the river, my heart dropped further than you can imagine! The worst thing about it was I could not make another deposit for a whole, long, heart wrenching week
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eek! That really sucks.  You have my sympathy.  But why did you spend all that time calling?  Do you think if you had raised it both pre and post flop "the Mouth" would have folded?  It's hard to form an opinion without knowing how this guy played previously but regardless, that was an icky hand.
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The reason I didnt go all-in is because if you don`t slow play him he folds. I have beat him probably 7-10 hands by slow playing him. He never changes his style of play. Revenge is in the future though.  
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Aces full I'm calling too.    You're not gonna be beaten too often with that hand.
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Aces full I'm calling too.    You're not gonna be beaten too often with that hand.


Really?  Just call?  Preflop?
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure would if a loud mouth is already raising, I want to see a flop ~ AA may look good until it flops 9-T-J suited, that I'm not on.

I get the impression that loud mouth ain't gonna fold to a re-raise. (Hark at me ... I wasn't even there. )
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(Hark at me ... I wasn't even there. )


not sure what that means exactly but here's a Hark (whatever that may be) coming right at ya.
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"THE MOUTH" tries to bully newbies at the cash tables, and 90% of the time they will call pre-flop and he will double the pot after the flop and if they don`t have a killer hand, they fold. I can tell when he has a good hand pre-flop though, he usually only calls the BB, so if I have something I know which way to bet  
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not sure what that means exactly but here's a Hark (whatever that may be) coming right at ya.


"Well,  She is American you know"
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Miklosik wrote:
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not sure what that means exactly but here's a Hark (whatever that may be) coming right at ya.


"Well,  She is American you know"

Thank the Lord, God in heaven above for that every day, sir.  But if I couldn't be here, I would be there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now here's a genious if I ever saw one, live tourny, down to about 18 players, the BB is 600, all fold to the SB, who is a real donk, I watched him playing raised pots with absolute rubbish, he raises 1K over the BB, I check him out, I'm very good at reading people in live tournies, I ask him how much he has back, which was another 4.4K, I have just over 6, I'm positive he has nothing, I only have ace 8, I know I'm way ahead, so I say all in, he insta calls, well I figure ok, I screwed up my read on him, until he flips over 10-4 off suit, I hit my ace on the flop, along with his 10, river brings him another 10, unfecking real...

He just laughs & says, see you never should have tried raising me, all my good hands always win. I say, nice catch donk, keep it up you won't be here long playnig that garbage, he follows that with, I'll use your chips to get to the final table & win tonite...

So I taught the arrongant young fecker a thing or two, I ended up winning last night, he never made the final table...playing stupid & sucking out will catch up with you, no matter how lucky you are.

but gonig back to his hand, is there anyone here, even if that raise was a bluff, that would have called a re-raise back at you to put you all in ?   he still had over 4 K left if he folded, I know if I bluffed in that spot, it's an inst fold as more than enough chips left in my mind to still get to the FT etc...
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...

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... 10-4 off ~ yeah right  

Congrats on the win.
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joker.......QQ
PLAYER2.....KJ
flop...........AQJ

JOKER AS FULL HOUSE QQQJJ
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SHOWDOWN ...JOKER QQQJJ    V          PLAYER2        JJJJ
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Ouch!!!! Thats gotta hurt.
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this is why I will very rarely now ever play a freeroll :

UTG raises to 100
all fold to me, with JJ, I re-raise to all in as I don't want a caller.
SB calls all in.
UTG thinks for awhile & calls.
SB shows 7, 2 off suit
UTG shows ace 10 off suit
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turn king
river 2

that was lesson 1 in how to reward a total F!@#$%&*G idiot.

now if I only re-raised & he pushed, total bluff, good for him, BUT HE CALLED ALL IN, with only 10 chips in the pot, total FN BS.
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Must be something about JJ.  I played the 1K yesterday, sat out the first hour to thin out the maniacs, got to be 45 left when I had JJ on the button.  BB calls my allin and has me outchipped 2:1, turns over Q2 so it's only a half race.  Damn if the flop didn't come 2Q2.
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this is why I will very rarely now ever play a freeroll :

UTG raises to 100
all fold to me, with JJ, I re-raise to all in as I don't want a caller.
SB calls all in.
UTG thinks for awhile & calls.
SB shows 7, 2 off suit
UTG shows ace 10 off suit
flop 7, 10, 4 rainbow
turn king
river 2

that was lesson 1 in how to reward a total F!@#$%&*G idiot.

now if I only re-raised & he pushed, total bluff, good for him, BUT HE CALLED ALL IN, with only 10 chips in the pot, total FN BS.


i would love to be called by that hand every single time i go all in with JJ
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sure you or i would like to be called with that, but the real point is that they don't play poker, & I'd rather lose with my AA vs JJ etc...a real hand, not crappolla...
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alot of these freeroll idiots will take any all in just trying to double up early..they don't have a clue about odds or how to play poker they just know "any 2 cards can win" and if they lose they think oh well bad luck and move on to another game..I hate the freeroll idiots..thats why i don't play many freerolls anymore
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happens all the time I get beat out on occasion due to the killer river, and someone has low cards and they call you and come out smelling like a rose!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesterday two times eliminated the river in two very important parties
incredible that the adversary 2 outs falls always
i am tilted two weeks
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